but in any case, I was merely trying to point out that there was nothing bad being said about Greg or anyone else for that matter. It was about a comment. We're not even on the topic of Greg's products. At least that's what I gathered from Chris's post last night. No one ever denied either of their credibility. But like I said originally, if I questioned something that my mechanic was doing to my car and his reply was, "you're a student, I have 20+ years experience, nuf said", well with my temper I would handle things my own way... but it's just a downright insult to a person's intelligence.